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Podcast Stats Soundbite: A Prediction About Apple Podcasts



Podcast Stats Soundbites

Podcast Stats Soundbite: A Prediction About Apple Podcasts

As part of our continuing series Podcast Stats Soundbites, this week we’re going to take a look at a treasure trove of podcast media download statistics. Specifically, podcast download clients–Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, etc.–some trends we see, and what that might mean for the podcasting space overall.

Podcast Stats Soundbite 1: Apple Podcasts Still Rules

Based on proprietary Blubrry Pro Podcast Stats data, Apple Podcasts, formerly known as iTunes Podcasts, is still the most used podcast download platform. In 2018 it was nearly 3x as large as the next nearest ecosystem (Google’s various devices and apps), and nearly twice as large as Google, Stitcher, Microsoft, Spotify, and Amazon combined.

Podcast Stats Soundbite 2: Apple Is Cannibalizing Itself

From January 2018 through December 2018, Apple Podcasts consumption moved from iOS to WatchOS in a big way. From January through August, Blubrry Pro Podcast Stats data show that Apple Podcasts on iOS grew from ~45% market share to ~50% market share. From September through December, Apple podcasts decreased to ~27% market share. That’s almost half. Where’d that market share go? Primarily Apple Watch, which grew from nothing to nearly 9% market share in that same period. What about the rest of that market share– where’d it go? Death by a thousand cuts. Everything from Stitcher (minor growth from 2.5% to 2.7%), to Spotify (grew from 0% to 1%), to CastBox.fm (which appears to be inversely correlated to Apple Podcasts: when Apple gains, CastBox.fm loses, and vice versa). As a market matures, it is common to see fragmentation as new entrants divide up existing market share. However, seeing such a precipitous drop by Apple Podcasts is not common.

Podcast Stats Soundbite 3: Apple Will Embrace Alexa

Based on the podcast stats data outlined above, we predict that Apple will create an Apple Podcasts Alexa skill as a way to hedge their podcast download market leader position. Amazon reportedly has 100 million Alexa enabled devices in the market. Among the primary use cases for these devices is listening to music and podcasts. So, just as Apple added Apple Music to the growing list of Alexa skills is 2018, it makes good sense, strategically, to have Apple Podcasts represented in this growing market. As an aside, while Google has more Google Assistant devices in the market, Google’s phones and Android also compete directly with Apple’s golden goose: iPhone.

Apple Podcasts is still huge, but it’s losing market share to… Apple Watch and a bunch of (relatively) new entrants. So we’re predicting that Apple’s going to produce an Alexa skill for Apple Podcasts. Bold or blah? What do you think, and why?

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Podcast Stats Soundbite: 3 Surprising Stats about Religious Podcasts



Podcast Stats Soundbites

Podcast Stats Soundbite: 3 Surprising Stats about Religious Podcasts

Maybe podcasting is a modern continuation of the prophets, town criers, and sages of old (which is pretty dang cool, if you think about it). Maybe podcasting is yet another channel where we create self-selecting “filter bubbles” lacking any diversity in life experience or perspective (but there are things you can do to fix that.) Whatever category, whatever reason over the past decade or so Blubrry has had the great fortune to be home to hundreds of thousands of podcasters in our Podcast Directory and our Podcast Stats & Podcast Hosting platforms. This year, we’re going to be focusing a bit on Podcast Statistics, making some predictions, and calling out what we believe are interesting factoids. We hope you’ll come along on this journey with us find some interesting, useful factoids.

The Inevitable Disclaimer

Let’s get this out of the way first: we are not here to promote one religion (or no religion) over another. This is simply looking at the production and consumption of religious-themed podcasts.

Podcast Stats Soundbite 1: Religious Podcasts Dominate

Of the 660,000+ podcasts in the Blubrry Podcast Directory, there are just over 92,000 podcasts in the Religious category. That’s almost half again as many podcasts in the Religious category than the next largest category, Culture & Travel which has nearly 65,000. Religious podcasts account for nearly 15% of total podcasts.

Podcast Stats Soundbite 2: Religious Podcasts Listenership Has Grown at an Astronomical Rate

Over the past decade, Religious podcast listeners (as measured by downloads) has increased by 85%. On average. Per year. 85%. That’s a phenomenal growth rate. Interesting side note: most of that enormous growth rate happened in 2015, when we saw a jump from roughly 110M downloads in Q4 2014 to nearly 680M estimated downloads in Q4 2015. If we remove that anomalous year, the growth rate still averages nearly 30% per year, which is nearly triple the average growth rate of all podcast estimated downloads.  

Podcast Stats Soundbite 3: Religious Podcasts Have Fewer Listeners Per Podcast

Ok. We’ve established Religious podcast have seen huge growth in both creation and listenership. But what about how many listeners each podcast can expect to attract? Well, Religious podcasts fall slightly below average on this measure. Religious podcasts attracted, on average, 8.75% fewer downloads per podcast (4,166 for religious podcasts vs. 4,565 for all categories) in Q4 over the past decade. This makes sense when you consider the massive number of religious podcasts that are created: it’s fragmenting the listener base. 

Not only are Religious podcasts the largest category–by far–but they’re also growing more quickly than average, both in terms of podcasts created and listeners (as measured by downloads). But they are slightly below the average number of listeners per podcast. Be sure to check back next week when we’ll be discussing Apple vs. Amazon and making a fairly bold prediction for 2019.

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2018 Podcasting Tips, Year in Review



Most Popular Podcasting Tip Posts in 2018

2018 Podcast Tips, Year in Review

As 2018 draws to a close, we wanted to take some time to reflect on all that’s happened this year in the world of podcasting. The thing we are proudest of (other than the privilege of having all of you amazing podcasters using Blubrry services) was becoming the first–and, so far, only– independent podcast host to have our podcast statistics platform certified as IAB Compliant. It’s kind of a big deal, and we’ll totally toot our own horn about it. But, rather than add to the echo chamber of 2018 podcasting year end reviews, we wanted to let you choose. So, here are the top podcasting tips 10 posts, as measured by pageviews in 2018.

  1. Number of podcasts showing up in iTunes or Feed. It’s a podcasting tips oldie but a goodie. From way back in 2011, this perennial favorite addresses one of the more common questions we get: why am I only seeing 10 of my podcast episodes in Apple Podcasts? Not to worry. It’s a quick read and an even quicker fix.
  2. Most Popular Apple Podcast Categories and The Importance of a Podcast Site. Coming in at number 9 is a PowerPress Podcast episode from March where we discussed the most popular content categories on Apple Podcasts. The trends weren’t really all that surprising, but the fun part is what the podcaster chooses to do with that information. Click through and listen also for an interview with John Wilkerson of The Wired Homeschool.
  3. 5 Things Podcasters Need To Know About Taxes. Taxes: no fun, but necessary. From 2016, this post gives podcasters things to consider when filing taxes, and making sure you get it done right. And, of course, the obligatory disclaimer: we at Blubrry are experts in podcasting, but not necessarily tax preparation! To make sure you’re protecting yourself and your podcast, be sure to consult IRS resources and/or speak to a tax professional if you have any questions.
  4. What Does “Fair Use” Mean When It Comes To Podcast Copyright? First taxes, now legal terms? Why, yes. Because it’s important… and we didn’t choose these, our readers/listeners did with each pageview. In this podcasting tips post, Blubrry CFO & General Counsel, Barry Kantz walks through an example of possible fair use and gives you some questions to ask when considering if your use could be considered fair use. Another obligatory disclaimer: we’re podcasters, not your attorney, and none of this should be considered legal advice. That’s what your attorney is for.
  5. Are Podcasts Downloaded or Streamed? We’ve Got The Answer. Spoiler alert: they’re downloaded for playback on demand. Another spoiler: there are a ton of great stats and insights in this post such as mobile vs. desktop, native app vs. browser, etc. Check it out.
  6. How To Take Advantage of Google’s Plan To “Double” Podcast Listening. Ah, Google. The 8 hundred million pound gorilla in any market they choose to enter. In this podcasting tips post from March, we give some ideas for leveraging Google’s plan to double podcast audience listenership.
  7. 4 Smart, Streamlined Options For Live Streaming Your Podcast. You all seem to really like some of our posts from 2016. This post is a primer on live podcasting– what platforms to consider, how best to use them, etc. For what it’s worth, we have a more recent take on live podcasting as well.
  8. Google Podcasts App is here! – YP34. Official Blubrry Podcast, Your Podcast, episode in which Mike Dell and special guest host Dave Clements, from the Blubrry Support team, and host of the GeekThis Podcast, discuss the long awaited, much anticipated Google Podcasts App.
  9. 3 Copyright Myths That Will Sink Your Podcast. Another long-time favorite, consistently bringing in readers, this podcasting tips post discusses some common podcast copyright misconceptions. Do yourself–and your podcast–a favor and give this post a quick read.
  10. What’s In A Name (And Logo?) How To Register And Protect Your Podcast Trademark. Consistently one of our top performing posts, but it makes sense: if you’re going to invest the blood, sweat, and tears creating and building a podcast, you want to make sure you can protect the intellectual property you’re creating. This post has some great tips for trademarking your podcast. Hint: “You obtain a podcast trademark when you first use your branding in commerce. When you pick a show name and logo and you publish a podcast using that show name and logo you have created your trademark. Of course your show name and logo must be unique and not a copy or something similar to another podcaster’s show name and logo.”

2018 has been a great year for Blubrry, and we are incredibly, eternally grateful to you: the podcasters who use our hosting, stats, and websites to bring your voice and story to the world. Here’s to 2019, and making it even better!

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Blubrry Podcast Stats are Certified IAB Compliant

Ok. We can’t keep it a secret a second longer, so pardon our excitement while we nerd out for a sec. We’ve been hinting at it, and there’s been buzz about it. But we are pleased to finally–and officially–announce that Blubrry has become the first ever podcast hosting company to receive Interactive Advertising Bureau Tech Lab (IAB) Podcast Measurement Certification. Our podcast statistics are now officially certified to the highest set of industry standards. We’re officially official.

Fireworks! Horns! Party hats!

Why IAB Certification Matters

Ok. Seriously, though. Podcasting has come a long way since 2005 when we started providing podcasting statistics, and Blubrry continues to thrive and lead. “This is the gold standard. There are no substitutes or shortcuts to certification of compliance,” said Todd Cochrane, Blubrry CEO. “Ad buyers, networks, podcast hosting platforms, and podcasters now have an audited, certified platform ready to serve them.”

The IAB Tech Lab certification is important because it gives podcast hosting companies, media buyers, and podcasters the confidence that the numbers they’re seeing are accurate to the highest level in the industry. Meaning they can make more informed decisions about advertising & monetization.

The Road to Podcast Stats Being IAB Certified

We were one of several organizations who took part in the auditing and certification process. It was extensive. It was exhaustive. It was independent. And it was based on the standards within the IAB’s Podcast Measurement Guidelines. Plus, we’re in good company: National Public Radio (NPR) was the only other organization certified as of this posting.

As part of IAB’s Podcast Technical Working Group, Blubrry and 31 other podcast and traditional media companies contributed to the Podcast Measurement Guidelines, released in December 2017, that provide strict rules and guidelines as the basis of certification, including downloads, listens, advertising delivery and advertisement play.

Podcast Stats that are IAB Certified and Platform Agnostic

As of today, Blubrry Enterprise customers can label their podcast statistics as Certified IAB Compliant. Blubrry Hosting customers and those shows using the Blubrry redirect with other platforms will quickly follow as outlined in this blog post. Blubrry customers should expect no changes to their metrics as the certified platform system has been in place since 2013. Yeah. You read that right. Since 2013. Even when we weren’t certified, we still built a solid podcast stats platform you trust to accurately portray your audience and their consumption of your content.  

What’s more, and unlike other providers, Blubrry podcast statistics are platform agnostic. Which means our podcast stats services aren’t limited just to Blubrry hosting customers. Although, more than 50,000 podcasters have trusted Blubrry podcast stats for the past decade plus– whether they host their podcast with us or not.

What did the process cover? A ton. Blubrry CIO, Angelo Mandato said “The audit included reviews of our platform architecture, filtering, file threshold levels, identity, aggregate uniques, metrics generation, website player reviews and recommendations, disclosures and external audit of the code line by line.”

Thanks, as always, for your trust in and support of Blubrry. We’re in this because we love podcasting, and we want podcasters to have the best tools available to grow your audience. Keep up the hard work (we will too!).

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6 Live Podcasting Tips to Put Some Life in Your Live Podcast



Live podcasting can be exhilarating and a great way to provide variety in your programming. Podcasting live can also be a great way to connect with your audience more immediately (could you set up a call-in line and take callers on-air?). Below are a 6 tips for preparing for and producing a live podcast.
  1. Preparation is even more important with a live show. Show notes, outline, research. However it is you prepare for a typical show, don’t skimp here. But don’t worry, perfection isn’t the goal. Your audience will trade you some production slickness for personality and a more immediate connection with you.
  2. Go with the flow. Set the stage for serendipity in the planning, then let ‘er rip and do your thing. Your audience will be getting the raw and unfiltered version of your show. They already “tune in” and listen, so this could be a great engagement booster, too.
  3. Know your gear and signal flow inside out and upside down. This way, if you do have technical issues during your live podcast, you’re more likely to be able to troubleshoot and solve quickly. There are plenty of gear lists and recommendations out there, so search away and find the right setup for you.
  4. Yes. You can still edit that in post. See our post on repurposing podcast content for some tips about what to do with the recording of your live podcast. If you make a mistake—even a big one—don’t sweat it. Keep going and try to correct it if you can while you’re still podcasting live. A lot of times your audience might not even know you messed up, and even if they notice… hey! It’s live! It’s all part of the show. Then, once your live podcast is over, you might choose to edit it down and scrub out the mistakes.
  5. Practice. Practice your segues. Practice your intros. Not necessarily word for word (don’t want to sound like a robot when it’s time to podcast live!), but certainly practice enough that you get the key turning points.
  6. Watch/listen to people who podcast live all the time. Pay attention to the structure. The transitions. The length of each segment. What’s working well? What could be improved?
What do you think? Have you done a live podcast? Or does podcasting live feel a little terrifying or overwhelming? We’d love to hear from you.
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Pro Podcast Stats Getting More Goodies



Podcast Statistics Platform Enhancements

Have you noticed anything new about your Blubrry Pro Podcast Media Download Statistics (podcast stats) recently? We just rolled out some upgrades! In 2017 we added Great Britain, Brazil and Canada reporting. This year we’ve added regional breakdowns for Germany and Mexico– countries with increasing podcast creation and listenership. Along with new countries, we’ve added DMA regions for US metro regions. The DMA metro regions will be separated from the rest of the US reporting to provide clarity for analyzing and monetization opportunities. In a nutshell, here’s what the Pro Podcast Stats platform enhancements are, and what it means for podcasters:

  • Hourly downloads reporting: Pro Stats users will be able to see how many downloads you’re getting during each hour for the first week. This is a great way for podcasters to find out what days/times might be most popular for releasing episodes.
  • In addition to current geographic breakdowns, we’ve added regional breakdowns for Germany and Mexico. Our Pro Podcast Stats users will be one step closer to total podcast world domination.
  • And we’ve added further geographic reporting in the US by adding the ability to report on DMAs (for example, Chicago, Atlanta, etc.) This lets you provide clearer audience data to your advertisers.

Podcaster and Blubrry CEO, Todd Cochrane, said “Podcast stats are crucial for podcasters to grow our audiences. And especially so for monetization. Because Blubrry continues to provide more detailed, accurate information about your content and listeners, you have more control over the future of your show and brand.”

IAB Podcast Statistics Certification Update

We’re also expecting to achieve IAB podcast measurement/statistics certification in the coming days. Which is kind of a huge deal. Look for more on that as it develops, but we’ve been hard at work on it for a while now. The auditing process and proceeding certification reflect the highest standard in the industry set by the Interactive Advertising Bureau, which will set the gold standard for all podcasting organizations. That means you will be able to provide advertisers and media buyers the most accurate, up to date statistics about your podcast, and that they can trust your numbers because our platform underwent a rigorous IAB audit and certification process.

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Promoting your podcast on Apple Podcasts (formerly iTunes Podcasts)



Promoting your podcast on Apple Podcasts

Promoting your podcast on Apple Podcasts (formerly iTunes Podcasts)

Apple Podcasts is the 800 pound gorilla for podcast discovery. There are other important podcast directories, like Google Podcasts, but Apple Podcasts is the big kahuna. Below are a few ideas for promoting your podcast on Apple Podcasts.

  • First, make sure your podcast is submitted to Apple Podcasts (formerly iTunes Podcasts). We have a fantastic (and very thorough) step by step guide on how to submit your podcast to Apple Podcasts. Be sure to check it out.
  • Now that you’re listed on Apple Podcasts, make sure to follow the Apple Podcasts Identity guidelines. Because getting a quick win by gaming the system could result in long-term pain.
  • A little empathy goes a long way. Think like a listener: if they were to listen to your podcast on Apple Podcasts, what is the most important thing they’ll take away? Make sure that is super obvious from both your title and your show notes. That way, when they find you on Apple Podcasts, it’ll be easier for them to feel confident in clicking play and discovering your unique view on the world.
  • Don’t overcorrect: when you first learn to drive a car, and the vehicle is heading toward the other lane, it’s common to jerk the steering wheel back too far in the other direction. This is called overcorrection. And it’s common in other arenas as well, including podcast promotion. So, the next time your podcast stats show a jump or a dip in listenership, don’t overcorrect. Make sure you understand how to analyze your podcast stats.
  • Don’t get caught up in the hype: New and Noteworthy, which should actually be called New OR Noteworthy, can’t be gamed the way you’ve been told. Shows grow at their own pace, and a short lived spot in that list won’t make or break your show.
  • Spread the word: tell your friends, family, colleagues, and random strangers on the Internet. Ask them to leave reviews. Ask them to share links to their favorite episode(s) of your podcast on Apple Podcasts.

 

Looking for more ideas to promote your podcast? You. Are. In. Luck! Blubrry has a handy manual for promoting your podcast.

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Podcast Stats and How to Analyze Them



What are Podcast Download Statistics and Why Do You Need Them?

Podcast Media Download Statistics, more commonly referred to as “podcast stats,” track how many times your podcast episode is downloaded, where it is downloaded from, on which devices/platforms, when, etc. Why do you need podcast stats? Why do you need a speedometer, gas gauge, or an odometer (or GPS) in your car? So you know how fast you’re traveling, how far away you are from your destination, when you need to refuel, and other such considerations. Similarly, podcast stats tell you how your content is performing, when/where/how it’s being consumed, and — over time — shows trends and patterns of behavior. ALL of which you should be using to build your audience and improve your podcast.

How To Analyze Podcast Download Statistics

Data. Data alone is great. Geography, devices, apps, platforms, when, & which episodes are popular. Blubrry’s Podcast Download Statistics platform is one of the most robust, accurate, and stable podcast stats platform available today. In fact, some of our original algorithms (from 2006!) are still in use today. And a lot goes into determining what counts as a download and what doesn’t which was just validated by IAB Auditors in our bid for IAB Certification. Some deep dives during that audit process have led us to highly recommend some guidelines we’ve developed to help you get the most accurate podcast stats. But data alone is only half the battle. You also need to develop your sense of intuition.

Data + Intuition = Podcast Stats Awesomeness.

Podcast download statistics alone aren’t enough. Sacrilege and blasphemy, seeing as how we are purveyors of podcast media download statistics, right? Wrong. We want to make sure you know how to get the most out of the powerful podcasting tools we build for you. Data alone is like buying the ingredients for a cake: if you don’t follow a recipe and put the ingredients together in the right way, you could end up with… well, with something gross. So, how can you become the Julia Childs of podcast stats? A few simple tips will help get you on your way.

  1. Know your platform. Click. Poke around. Read the Podcast Media Download Statistics FAQs. Learn the tool inside and out so you know how best to use it. There is a fantastic demo of our Podcast Stats platform available as well. And, as always, Blubrry customers receive complimentary phone and/or video chat support from real live humans, so don’t be shy. Reach out and say hello, we’d love to help.
  2. Wondering is wonderful. Put your two-year-old-you hat on: your favorite question was probably “why?” Why is the sky blue? Why do birds sing? Why? Why? Why? Similarly, as a podcaster reviewing your podcast stats, you should always wonder why: why did 20% more people download my most recent episode? Why was there a sudden drop off in Ohio? Wow! Most of my audience is on Android… I wonder why?
  3. Don’t hyperventilate, hypothesize. Seeing a trend? Whether it’s up or down, don’t freak out. Take a step back, ask yourself why this might be the case, and come up with some hypotheses — ideas to explain what you’re observing.
  4. Testing, testing. Once you’ve wondered and hypothesized, it’s time to test. What are some things you could test? Could you run a very targeted social ad campaign to your Ohio audience (you can geo-target both paid and non-paid posts on Facebook, so you don’t necessarily have to spend money)? Could you do a follow-up blog post (see our post on repurposing podcast content) on a similar topic, but make it more immediately relevant? Could you ask your audience for input?
  5. Use demographic data you have collected through the free Blubrry Audience Survey tool to help complete the picture of your audience makeup.

There are certainly more things to keep in mind when analyzing your podcast media download stats. But we wanted to get a few of the high-level, most impactful tips up. How do you analyze your podcast stats? Any tips you’d like to share? Let us know!

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Critical IAB Podcast Statistic Changes



You work hard to build your podcast, your audience, your voice. And you rely on Blubrry to provide flexible, stable, industry-leading tools like podcast media hosting and podcast download statistics to make it easier to share your point of view and make informed decisions. As some of you know, the past few months we have been going through an extensive audit by an IAB audit team to achieve certification of our statistics.

We have learned a great deal during the process and have come up with guidelines that all podcasters should be following that will help you obtain the most accurate podcast statistics. We think it’s a quick must read for all.

The Changes

In this process we’ve begun making some behind the scenes changes that we’ll roll out in three phrases over the next few months.

First, will be for our enterprise customers like ESPN and ABC, with no changes to that system.

Second, will be our media hosting customers: how we process data will change to raw log files. This will allow us to provide you some new unique info. We’ll keep you updated and give more information later on, no need to worry about anything.

Non-Hosting customers that use our platform strictly for podcast statistics using the redirect method will come next. In order to certify redirect clients, we are required to put in place code that will audit podcasters website for activities like pre-loading. Preloading refers to the functionality where a web-based audio player will automatically start loading the media upon page load. This audit along with a user agreement we are preparing will be required for redirect clients that are not hosting with us.

We appreciate your trust in Blubrry as we continually improve our already great podcasting platforms. If you have any questions or concerns, please don’t hesitate to contact one of our real, live humans in support.

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Balancing a Podcast and a Career – Podcasting Tips



Balancing a Career and a Podcast - Blubrry

How is it there are never enough hours in the day? From work, to friends & family, to hobbies and passion projects, sometimes it seems like there’s simply not enough time. And achieving any semblance of “balance” can feel impossible. Today, we’ll focus specifically on balancing a podcast and a career.

Define your podcasting and career goals

Having goals will help you determine if you’re on the right track, devoting too much time to your podcast and not enough to your career (and vice versa). For example, your podcast goals might include producing an episode per week, growing your podcast audience by 10% each month, and securing one big-name interviewee per quarter. Whatever your goals are, make them measurable. That way, you will be able to determine if you’re on the right track, need to invest more time/resources, or maybe even cut back a bit.

Podcast and career overlap: pro or con?

Is there overlap between your podcast and your career? Do you podcast about the industry in which you are employed? Yes? Awesome. No? Also awesome. There’s an old Tibetan parable about a family, some horses, and determining what’s “good” and what’s “bad.” The short version is: “could be good, could be bad; who knows?” When balancing a podcast and a career, having overlap between the two, or no overlap at all can be a good thing. If you’re a spanish speaking healthcare professional and you’re podcast is about spanish in the medical setting, you’re leveraging your professional experience and expertise to help share your views with the world. But podcasting can be a fantastic break from your career as well. Maybe you are an appliance repair person, but really love sports. So, you podcast about sports. It’s a way to keep your mind fresh and gives you a mental rest from repairing stoves.

Take a step back

Are you spread too thin, “sort of stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread?” Maybe it’s time to take a step back, take a breath, and make a list. List out all the things you’re responsible for–including time for work, sleep, self care, and time with friends/family–and estimate the number of hours per week you are dedicating to each. Pro tip: if the total number of hours you’re supposed to be dedicating to everything is more than 168 (the number of hours in a week) it’s time to scale back. Now that you’ve laid it out, are there any areas out of alignment, especially when compared to the amazing, measurable goals you’ve set forth? Yes? Better get to work realigning.

Of course, there are tons of tips for balancing a podcast and a career. These are just a few. How do you balance your podcast and your career? Sound off in the comments or on social– someone else might be wondering how to do something you’ve already figured out!

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